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Debt

How Much Debt Do Our Students Actually Have?

February 24, 2016 By Tim Casteel

I recently gave a talk at our Cru meeting on Money (you can download, and freely use, my notes here).

4 Steps to Making the Most of Your Money

  1. Acknowledge your default – The American Dream
  2. Replace the American Dream with something weightier, something better
  3. Overcome any obstacle (debt)
  4. Live simply, Save wisely, and Give generously

The bulk of the talk was focused on debt – credit card and student loan debt.

I took a poll of the audience (using directpoll.com which worked really well for us – students could see the live results on screen as they responded). We had about 100 participate in the online poll. I thought the results were very interesting so I thought I’d share them:

expected income

62% think they will earn over $40k.

National surveys say that only 20 percent of graduates will earn over $40,000 in their first year on the job.
And only 59% will earn more than $25,000.

So our students are either REALLY gifted. Or a LITTLE over-optimistic.

scholarships pie chart

29% of our students have at least half of their college paid for.

52% have at least 1/4 paid for.

94% have at least some scholarship.

This wasn’t altogether surprising – our students tend to be pretty smart. For whatever reason we attract a lot of engineers and honors students.

 

giving pie chart

51% give less than $100/year.

81% give less than $300.

I admit – I thought this would be higher! Obviously something we can help our students grow in.

63% of tithers started tithing 10 percent or more between childhood and their twenties.

furture debt pie

51% will owe $0.

Only 12% will owe more than $20k

Nationally: Seven in ten college graduates have student loans. The average new graduate in 2015 walked the stage $35,000 in the hole.

Granted, I often hear from graduates that they didn’t find out until after graduation that their mom and dad took out loans for them that they themselves have to pay back. So some students may receive a not-so-fun surprise graduation gift from mom and dad.

 

how much current debt pie

65% have no loans.

Only 12% have more than $10k

I’m sure the Cru meeting audience skews toward freshmen (who naturally have less debt than upperclassmen). I would guess at least 1/3 of the students were freshmen.

How many hours work pie

61% don’t have jobs

Only 28% work more than 5 hours a week,

Credit Card Debt Pie Chart

92% don’t have any credit card debt! I admit. I was shocked by this number. Many said they don’t even own credit cards. Yet they don’t carry cash. Not sure how they pay for things!? Maybe debit cards?

Nationally - 68% of college students have credit card debt — with an average of $600 in debt.

We Are Losing an Entire Generation of Laborers to Student Loan Debt

February 2, 2015 By Tim Casteel

“The greatest enemy [to sending] other than Satan himself is educational debt.” Dr. Albert Mohler, President of Southern Baptist Seminary

Seven out of ten students that we are challenging to full time ministry are carrying a crippling weight.

Seven in ten college graduates have student loans. And their average debt is $37,172. That is truly staggering. Overwhelming.

“Ben Sawatsky, associate personnel director of Evangelical Free Church Missions, says 95% or more of those who apply as potential candidates are paying off student loans.”

Increasingly, student loan debt is becoming the number one obstacle to students working in full time ministry. Student debt has tripled over the past eight years.

“What [mission agencies] told us over and over is that the number-one barrier to getting people to live and work overseas was debt. They called it the black hole.” – Johnnie Moore, Senior VP of Communications at Liberty University

Student debt now exceeds credit card debt and trails only mortgages as the leading cause of debt in the United States. And “unlike credit card debt, which can be refinanced or wiped out with bankruptcy, student loans will not go away. Even in bankruptcy, the individual is expected to repay his or her loan.”

“Thousands of US college graduates desire to willingly place themselves on the front lines of the mission field for the sake of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Tragically, many of them will never go because of the barrier created by their student debt.” Luke Womack founder of The GO Fund (his entire article Satan, Starting Salaries, & Student Debt is worth reading)

This is a relatively new problem. College tuition costs 17 times more than it did 40 years ago.

FEDERAL STUDENT LOAN DEBT-HISTORICAL-CHART-1

It’s becoming nearly impossible to work your way through college and emerge debt free. I’ve met one student who’s done it in the past 10 years. One.

“The landscape of college affordability has changed dramatically. Long gone are the days where working a summer job would yield enough money to foot the bill for college. There is now more pressure than ever to get a high paying job to tackle student loans as efficiently as possible. This pressure exists for everyone, missionary or otherwise.” Luke Womack

Let’s lay out the problem:

  • To work in full time ministry, you need a college degree.
  • The cost of a college degree is 17 times more expensive now.
  • 7 out of 10 graduates who want to go into full time ministry find it very difficult to do so. Their debt is so high that monthly payments can’t be made on a missionary salary.

“Educational loan debt introduces a threat to the spread of the Gospel that promises cataclysmic and eternal consequences for the unreached sinner if nothing is changed.” Luke Womack

There are two options:

  1. Allow missionaries to forgo college
  2. Get in the trenches and help graduates overcome their student loan debt

The first is not really an option. Specifically for the field I work in, college ministry, you need a college degree to be able to hold your own with college students.

But in any ministry context, I think a college degree is worth it:

  • A college degree opens up doors to unreached people by getting missionaries into closed countries.
  • Young people mature in college and develop the work ethic, responsibility, and initiative necessary to be effective missionaries.
  • Students’ involvement in college ministries are where they develop a heart for the world and the skills to effectively minister for Christ. I’ve written before that college ministries are the number one producer of missionaries.

If students are considering full time ministry and have significant debt, they can take one of two routes

  • Get a job in the workplace and aggressively pay off debt
  • Go straight into ministry and include loan payments in the support that they raise

The first option is difficult, because most will not make it to the field. Most will get entangled in the worries of the world and the American Dream. The only times I’ve seen this successful is when missionary candidates have stated a specific plan and had friends hold them accountable. It’s too easy to rationalize: “Well, if I just worked 6 more months I could save another $30,000 for a rainy day. That might help be a better steward for God…” And then: “We have a baby on the way, and I need to save for our first house before I go into ministry…” But for those who’ve done it (and made it to the ministry field), it’s been great. They come into ministry with a good work ethic and debt free. It’s just that few make it.

Kyle, a missionary with Pioneers, has this advice: “Stick to [a loan payoff] plan as if your life depends on it. The people I knew from college who had no loan repayment plan never made it overseas. Without a plan, they lost focus when the debt wasn’t easily paid off.”

The second option is not perfect. In an ideal world you’d go into full time ministry debt free. But we should encourage students to go, in confidence that God will provide.

Kyle once more with wise advice: “For most students coming out of college, I recommend this option. Here’s why. In my experience, many mission-minded people are not able to land jobs that pay enough to kill debt fast (because their degrees are not in demand). While the ideal is a high-paying job, many end up working in a position that pays barely enough to live on. Don’t be ashamed to add a certain amount of money into your budget to repay student loans, and don’t hide behind a rock when people ask about it.”

Just know your facts (about the rising cost of college, your plan to aggressively pay off, etc) and you can confidently field questions from donors.

So what can we do about Student Loan Debt?

  • Talk about student loan debt – at your weekly meeting, in discipleship, with your leaders.
    • Cru just put out 6 new Bible studies on Gaining Financial Peace – giving the Bible’s view on borrowing/lending, saving, wealth, generosity, spending and financial planning.
    • Here’s a weekly meeting talk I gave on money and student debt. Feel free to use and adapt.
  • Normalize it. I didn’t realize this (until I started asking questions of new Cru staff) but graduates often have a tremendous amount of shame and guilt related to school debt. They feel unspiritual, foolish, and enslaved – “not realizing that there are other people just like me”. Paul Worcester advises we need to “communicate that it is normal and OK to join staff with some student loan debt.” Graduates going into ministry are “afraid to disclose to anyone because I didn’t know how they would feel about my substantial debt.”
  • Train graduates in how to rapidly get rid of school debt
    • Encourage them to take a Dave Ramsey class (or at least read his books) and start to snowball debt
    • Allison Vesterfelt has a good first hand account of being $50,000 in debt and what she did about it
  • Missions Organizations need to raise their debt limits. If we require applicants to have college degree, and 70-95% have $30,000 in school debt, we need to make allowances for greater debt.
    • I know many organizations are being proactive- with Cru, if a single person only has student loans (no car, credit card, etc), depending on interest rates, we will accept up into the $30’s. For marrieds it’s double that. If there is car or credit card debt, you can definitely still be accepted with significant student loan debt, but it does affect the calculations.
      Cru treats it holistically and tries to accept as many people as possible but they don’t want to put people in a position that is unsustainable – their limits are set to with the aim that staff will be able to pay off all student debt in 10 years and all credit card debt in 3 years.
    • Todd Ahrend, in his book In This Generation (which, admittedly, is 7 years old and undoubtedly things have changed), surveyed 10 missions agencies. Two allowed no student debt. The other 8 had a debt limit between $20-$25,000.
    • If we want the best and the brightest to join us in accomplishing the greatest mission in the world, we need to make allowances. Ivy League graduates (and other graduates of elite, leader-producing schools) often carry significantly more than average school debt. We’re losing these elite leaders if we don’t make allowances.
  • We need more foundations and organizations like the GO Fund who offer to “take over student loan payments for some who go to the unreached.”
    • We should consider reaching out to our largest ministry partners and show them the significant hurdles graduates are facing and ask if they would help us overcome that hurdle. Start a foundation where maybe ministry applicants would pay down half and a foundation would pay the other half.
  • We need to become educated ourselves and help seniors who are graduating become familiar with their options on dealing with debt after college:
    • Unfortunately, most Christian workers cannot take advantage of the amazing Non Profit Student Loan Forgiveness program where your debt is forgiven after only 10 years of paying. BUT if you work in more of a support/ops role or in an organization like IJM or GAiN you can qualify. You must work at least 30 hours in work that does not include “religious instruction, worship services, or any form of proselytizing.”
    • Pay off private (non-government) loans first because of variable interest rates (and I don’t think they’re eligible for income based loans). Nationwide, “nearly 20 percent of all graduating seniors’ debt came from private student loans.”

Some Helpful Resources:

  • Alex Chediak’s book – Beating the College Debt Trap: Getting a Degree without Going Broke – written by a professor, this book was very helpful for me to understand how we can get to students earlier – as freshmen or sophomores – and help them stay out of debt (used a lot of the content in the weekly meeting talk I referenced above).
  • Cru’s new Bible studies on Gaining Financial Peace – 6 great studies giving the Bible’s view on borrowing and lending, saving, wealth, generosity, spending and financial planning.
  • A Quiet Revolution in Helping Lift the Burden of Student Debt – New York Times
  • Info on Income Based Loans
  • Official Federal Website for Income Based Repayment Loans
  • Must Know Facts About Obamas New Student Loan Plan – US News
  • US News story on Average Student Loan Debt Hits $30,000

“We should declare war on educational loan debt for the sake of those who have yet to hear the Good News of Jesus Christ.” – Luke Womack

There is so much at stake, we cannot afford to sit idly by while we lose a generation of laborers for the gospel. We will feel the ripple effects for decades if we do nothing.

Let’s figure this out together – what has been helpful for you in helping students overcome educational debt to serve God in full time ministry?

Federal Debt graph from http://www.cnsnews.com/

photo courtesy of thisisbossi

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